Unsuccessful again...

[Dappy]

What am I doing wrong... Seriously!

[Runrig]

Ah that's is shite! Your doing nothing wrong and look at it this way you got shortlisted and that's a great thing. I know you feel really rubbish at the moment. Ask for feedback and do it all over again you will get a place soon xxx

[Runrig]

Am just wondering did u tell them about this place ??

[Dappy]

We ended up talking about TMS as I had only really just started this place.

Anyhow I'm not too disappointed as well I'm having another baby so I shall be occupied lol

[Runrig]

Oh right just was thinking about that thread about ur reason why you want to deferred entry and they might have seen it ifswim. And exactly u have something to really look forward too u can get into uni next year but a baby is a special thing and since u were worried it might not happen :)

[Delilah]

Get feedback hun, go from there. You are doing nothing wrong, it's just the process.

[Dappy]

Yeah I'll email pam in a bit and see what she says.

Ah well.

[HazelB]

:( Awww hun thats crap, Your not doing anything wrong Im sure, its just the sheer amount of applicants I think.

At least now you can concentrate totally on your new addition!

[MrsBanks]

Aw hunny that's rubbish :( You were shortlisted so maybe it was the deferment that put them off. Hopefully you can get some feedback that will help for next year.

[Kipling]

Sorry to hear that. :thumbdn:

[Dappy]

At least I got one step closer this year!

[RubyRouge]

Sorry to hear that Dappy :(

[Runrig]

Have u had any feedback yet?

[Dappy]

Na havent emailed yet.

[Old Owl]

Keep at it, you'll get there. Congrats on the pregnancy I didn't know about that!! :) x

[Dappy]

Ive only just found out myself old owl :D im on top of the world!

[MrsBanks]

Definitely email them for feedback Dappy, whilst it is all fresh. I doubt there was anything substantially wrong with your application if you were shortlisted, but they may be able to pinpoint something you can do to make your application stand out a bit more from the rest. Personally I suspect the deferment and if that's all it was then you could be in with a really good chance next year. Just make sure that if more than 3 years has passed since your access course that you do another short case to demonstrate recent learning.

[midwifethinking]

Congratulations on the new baby news! Sorry about the course. You WILL get there so don't give up. Enjoy your baby journey in the meantime x

[Dappy]

I've emailed Pam, I'll copy here what she writes to me when I hear from her.

[Dappy]

This is the response I got.


The midwifery admissions tutors have asked me to explain that the process of interviewing students is one the midwifery team takes very seriously.* The present format has been developed from years of experience and evaluation, and is successful in identifying applicants who are suitable for a programme of midwifery education.* You did very well on the day but, unfortunately, the calibre of other applicants was such that your overall performance did not secure you an offer.
*
Unfortunately, the term ‘reject’ does not always convey the circumstances around the offer of places on the programme.* Although we interviewed well in excess of 300 applicants we can only recruit around 79 student midwives, despite the fact many more applicants may have been potentially suitable.* Although this does not resolve your situation, I hope it demonstrates that often rejection has to be based on availability rather than ability and many potentially suitable applicants have to be disappointed.
*
You are welcome to apply again from 1st September 2011 when the application process commences again.

Thoughts?

[Delilah]

I'd say it's again a reply with 'not enough places'.

Sadly, not much else you can do BUT be happy in the fact that you didn't mess it up! This is not your fault.

Can you reply back with what can I do to prepare next year? and Can I be put on a waiting list for any places which become available.

xxx

[Dappy]

It's just formulating a reply. Lol

I'm really annoyed.

[Mumofmany]

I'm sorry... It seems like they thought you were good enough but there just aren't enough places to service all the people who could make good midwives. Cry, scream, rant and rave. Then dust yourself off and knock them out next year!

[mum09]

Here here mumofmany :) i am starting the process september? Eek!!!

[Runrig]

I would also reply back asking what you can do to prepare yourself for next. I wouldn't be happy with that answer either.

[chixorfish]

To be honest, I think that response is a huge cop out on their part. How are you supposed to be successful without constructive feedback? IMO their was nothing constructive about that. A bog standard automated response which was probably sent out to the other 225 that were unsuccessful.

All that said dappy, please don't think i am belittling your achievement. Knowing how hard you have worked to show all round knowledge of midwifery and your academic achievement, I think you were a very strong candidate and you deserve better than this. Not surprised you are angry.

[Dappy]

Na it's ok chixorfish, I wasn't expecting personalised feedback tbh as I didn't either last year and had to probe to get something out of them!

I think even if your a 'perfect candidate' it still comes down to luck at the end of the day, whether the interviewers pick you or not which is a bit rubbish to be honest.

I just feel a bit meh, it's like how long is this going to take? What else can I do? Blood? Would that be could enough?

I would like to know what these successful candidates have got that I haven't got, but I doubt shed tell me that.

[Runrig]

I still think it's the deferred entry dappy that would have put them off.

[Dappy]

They asked me at interview for when I was applying and I said I originally applied for 2012 but said I'm happy to apply this year also.

They wrote me down for 2011 and put next to it, happy to defer to 2012.

[Humph]

I was rejected again by Dundee Uni, and they said they would welcome an application from me again for 2012. However, their course has now been one of the 3 which have been cut and will not be running from 2012 so that's me finished with midwifery altogether. Scotland has gone from 6 to 3 Uni's offering midwifery next year. In ten years time 45% of our midwives will begin to retire. The birth rate IS rising, We DO need more midwives despite the fact that we have no jobs currently for them. as we have seen from recent news this year mothers andf babies ARE already dying because of the lack of care. How many more will have to die before the bloody penpushers take notice? Silver lining I guess is that childbearing women will need doulas all the more! so maybe i might get more work as a Doula :/

[MrsBanks]

Aw Humph I'm sorry you were unsuccessful. It's a difficult time to be training as a midwife in Scotland right now xx